sRepliesHTML = "";iReplies = 40;mReplies = iReplies;iDiv = 132655 AddReply(480337,"Murex Snails","Yechiel Y. Perr","Far Rockaway NY","08/17/09","Murex snails are broken when used for dying, not punctured. Witness the mounds of shells at Tyre.\nOver 30 Murex snails are required to dye one set of tzitzis. The half a dozen found cant really be considered a proof."); AddReply(474203,"To Prof. Zvi Koren #38","Jew","Israel","08/03/09","I am interested in the scientific discussions, so how can I go about learning it? Please provide a link or point in the right direction to further inform myself about this matter, particularly the scientific aspects. I am not an expert in color-dying but I do have basic science (biology, biochem, chem etc) education."); AddReply(473582,"Archaeologists & Discussants - Beware","Prof. Zvi Koren","Ramat-Gan","08/02/09","It truly amazes me at what people have been doing and saying with this topic. To be very brief:\n(1) To the really terrific archaeologists who advance our knowledge of the past and who found (according to the report) “at least half a dozen Murex snail shells” and then add that “so many” were found at one site – in Jerusalem, of all places: This meager find at this location is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the overall purple dyeing process for either Argaman or Tekhelet. This is so for scientific, logistic, geographic, and environmental reasons. I won’t go into all the details now. (I have other stuff to do at the moment.) Thus, this find sheds absolutely no light on whether it was or wasn’t a priestly dwelling.\n(2) To all of you pro- and anti-murex proponents, stick to the science of it all and not to “wishful thinking”! Halachah – in the right hands – is great, but when you discuss a SCIENTIFIC process, stick to the scientific possibilities and not to the stuff of legends.\nProf. Zvi Koren\n"); AddReply(473292,"TWEAKER, there is no consensus","","","08/02/09","Yes thousands of Jews wear techeilet today, but there is no consensus on the matter."); AddReply(473231,"To # 33 - Promotion and Distribution of Techelet","EliMaimon","","08/02/09","The discussion is very important and very interesting in itself, but I do not think it justifies trying to prove the Techelet was \"rediscovered\" to make it a commerce. \n\nIf we talk of looking at the sky, let it indeed be \"l\'shem shamayim\"!\n"); AddReply(473230,"To # 29. Women are allowed. ","EliMaimon","","08/02/09","The \"Talit Katan\" is an artificial garment because the one which has to have Tzitzit is a garment that had to be \"big enough to cover a grown child\'s head and most parts of his body, and it has to be made only of either wool or linen\". \n\nThe tsitsit men wear today as an undergarment are not fulfilling the Torah commandment, but a rabbinic injunction. \n\nWoman are allowed to wear tsitsit but they will do so without a blessing, just like a man wearing it at night will not say a blessing. \nThe same goes for Tephillin.\n \n\n\n\n "); AddReply(473225,"Raise your eyes to Heaven","EliMaimon","","08/02/09","The supposedly \"blue\" Techelet turn red in hot discussions!\n\nThe search for Techelet is inspired by a desire to turn our expectant eyes to Heaven. But the Heavens are not always azure, sometimes they are even almost black. \n\nTo say: OUR WORLD IS NOT ALL PINK, and let\'s stop deluding ourselves!!!\n\n1. This fish comes up every seventy years means that is the time when it is MOST plentiful being its maximum reproduiction period, but it was found all year round. \n\n2. When a TRADITION has been lost because it could not be kept, it is impossible to revive it WITHOUT a tradition. \n\nWe have to respect our tradition, and not create a new one (as Rabbi Bar Chayim does). \n\nIt will take not the renewed Sahnhedrin but the prophet that will come with it to tell us what this tradition is, as well as where the exact place of the altar is. \n\nWhat\'s the hurry? Be patient!\n "); AddReply(473181,"A Solution to Problems Regarding Tekhelet","edu","Jerusalem","08/02/09","http://www.600000men.com/solutions.htm\nContents of the Article\nThe Identification of the Chilazon by Chavot Yair and the Author of Shiltei Hagiborim \nOn What is the Identification Based \nThe Use of the Language of the Gentiles in Halacha \nThe Position of Rabbi Herzog \nThe Color of the \"Blood\" of the Chilazon \nDoes the Chilazon Have a Shell? Should We Define the Chilazon as a Worm or a Fish? \nIs it Possible to Press the Chilazon With Your Hands Until Its Blood Comes Out? \nMiphkad Pakid - Stored Blood \nThe Capture of the Chilazon \nIs the Chilazon Found Also In the Kinneret? \nIt Goes Up Once Every 70 Years \nIts Body Resembles The Sea \nSources in the Talmud, Rishonim and Achronim on the Subject of the Test for Tekhelet \nWhat is Kala Ilan? \nOther important Tekhelet topics are covered there too but for lack of space I can\'t list them all here"); AddReply(473104,"#27--Have Not Received His Response, but the Murex Position is a HOUSE OF CARDS","Bar-Ron, Ohel Moshe","","08/02/09","I am sorry, but to my knowledge, we have not received any response yet from Rav Dawidh Bar-Hayim. I am well aware how vehemently he disagrees with my position, yet he retains my sincere respect and admiration. This is one issue on which we do not see eye to eye. I suggest you focus on the many issues that we do! \n\nIn the meantime, the many proofs and sources I bring stand on their own merit. Until a valid Sanhedrin is restored and establishes a pesaq for our whole nation, each scholar must ultimately follow his best understanding. \n\nPersonally, I cannot understand any Hakham --no matter how invested he may be in the opposite position-- who would disregard the solid evidence and clear, straight logic presented in my thesis. I know this hurts many people led astray --and it hurts to be the one to break the news-- but the Murex position is a HOUSE OF CARDS. "); AddReply(473074,"To #28, \"Student V\":  A Misunderstanding On Your Part","Bar-Ron, Ohel Moshe","","08/02/09","Please, sir, this has nothing to do with your rabbi per se. Halakhic truth is something much greater than what your rav or someone else\'s rav believes to be correct. Rather --as opposed to matters that the Sages left open to local custom, and matters that are in the realm of \'reshuth\' (personal volition)-- the halakhah is ultimately the same for all of kelal Yisrael. Remember: there are many possible \"Judaisms\". But the only legitimate one is that which our Sages voted upon in the Sanhedrin. According to our different schools of thought, we can respectfully disagree as to what is the best, most accurate repository for the Oral Law, but there is only ONE Torah for our nation. \n\nTherefore, it is not your rabbi\'s pesaq that makes something \"okay\" for you or not; but rather, if he is right. In this case, while he may be brilliant in other cases; here I believe he\'s mistaken."); AddReply(473021,"The cord of Blue","Deborah","Elizabeth","08/01/09","The Torah,does not specify that a snail had to be used.We need to keep all G-d\'s commandments.If it say\'s blue ,Than Blue it is..."); AddReply(472911,"Women wearing Tzitzit","Rainkatt","Seattle","08/01/09","At Masada they have a display with ancient tzitzit with the blue thread.\nIt says that women as well as men wore them.\nI don\'t see in scripture where it says only men are to wear them.\nIt says \'children of Israel\'"); AddReply(472886,"To Ohel Moshe #17","Student V","land","08/01/09","\"\"Tekheleth\" derived from Murex is patently passul. \"\n\nNot according to a psak from my rabbi, and he is confident based on his own inquiry that you are mistaken. \n\nSo how can \'you\' pasul something for \'me\' ? With all due respect, and I actually really like your yeshiva/kehila and have immense respect for your work.... Bracha w\'hasslaha."); AddReply(472883,"To Mori Bar-Ron and Eli Maimon and the rest of Torath Moshe yeshiva","Jew","Israel","08/01/09","Others have done extensive objective research and disagree with your premises. I point you to Rav Bar Hayim\'s response to your work. Will you publicize it on your site, and do you have any defense? He mentioned his work to me that it was published in a Torah journal of some sort (don\'t remember the name)..."); AddReply(472705,"Uncovered treasures","Christine Sherrard","Selby UK","07/31/09","How wonderfully \'on time\' our Lord is. As apostacy and belief in science over the things of G-d grow, The Lord Himself reveals secrets to confound the wisdom of the worldly wise! Each new find is a step closer to Messiah\'s reigning on earth. "); AddReply(472700,"To # 23 (cont.)","EliMaimon","","07/31/09","You mean we should have more ostracized scholars like me?!\n \nI don\'t see that \"Rambamists\" succeed in getting the Mishne Torah accepted as Law in Israel, for the same sad reason that they too are divided between them as to who is the supreme halachic authority on the Rambam!!! \n:-) "); AddReply(472624,"serious question",",",",","07/31/09","This was found on Mt. Zion. Our TaNaKh constantly refers to Mt. Zion whereas the current \"Temple Mount\" has always been know as Mt. Moriah. Is it possible that due to all the destruction, the Builders of the Second, Temple go the location wrong? Would somebody with a Sephardic background and knowledgeable please explain the constant references to Mt. Zion?\nSorry, Litvishers, I just don\'t rely on your Acharonim and I don\'t want a dispute. I want authoritative clarification.\n"); AddReply(472610,"#22--Eli Maimon, you are 100% correct.","Bar-Ron","","07/31/09","Would we only have more scholars among us like you, who relate to the plain meaning of the teachings of Hakhme ha-Talmud and Rabbenu ha-RaMBaM."); AddReply(472591,"To # 17/20 Techelet","EliMaimon","","07/31/09","The cuttle fish is another postulant. \n\nBut the first thing we must get rid of is the idea that Techelet is \"skyblue\", \"azure\", \"himmelblau\". It is almost black!\n\nToo many researches are looking for the die in that direction, which is going astray - after the \"drasha\" of Rabbi Meir rather than according to the Halacha!\n\n \n\n "); AddReply(472509,"Looks like Phoenician, eh?  ","Avraham","Albuquerque, NM","07/31/09","Roger, you gave us the wrong URL. I think you meant www.edenics.ORG\nThat\'s where you\'ll find data that supports the contention that _all_ languages are related to the original language. And that they\'re now coalescing, that all of us will eventually get back to the one, pure language given by G-d to our ancestors way back when, in the Garden!\n\nThe article says they\'re having some difficulty deciphering the informal cursive inscription. I have great difficulty deciphering my own informal cursive writing! (And it doesn\'t date back millenia!)\n\nComputer-related speculation: Why wouldn\'t people \'way back when\' have used a _variety_ of letter-styles when writing...or chiseling? I have dozens of fonts! \n\n.....àáøäí.....\n"); AddReply(472444,"addendum to #17","i","jeusalem","07/30/09","The Rambam decscribes the Hilazon (aquatic source of tehcelet) as a fish with black blood. The current process uses the clear/white bladder fluid of a snail. I vote for the octopus. \n\n* in no way is this to be considered a halachic opinion."); AddReply(472430,"Yes Nita!","EliMaimon","","07/30/09","Ignorance is a sin! \n\nEspecially for Jews who are commanded to study the Torah they received as an inheritance, together with the land. \n\nAnd of course, no one should get paid for studying!\n \n \n\n \n"); AddReply(472426,"Priestly residential area","EliMaimon","","07/30/09","That the murex shell was found in that area is NOT a proof that it is a priestly residential area.\n\nThe reason being that CONTRARY to the techelet of Tzitzit which must be obtained from the Chilazon, the Techelet of the priestly garment does NOT. \n\nEveryone, including the Temple Institute rabbis, are invited to study the Rambam PROPERLY - that is whoever really wishes to restore our true tradition. \n\n \n"); AddReply(472412,"3,4,6,11,13 -- DON\'T MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ABOUT TEKHELETH before objective study!","Ohel Moshe","","07/30/09","\"Tekheleth\" derived from Murex is patently passul. Have you learned the different sides of the issue? It is passed off as a simple equation -- it is anything but! I wrote an earlier talkback (I don\'t know if it will be selected) recommending the intelligent reader to the following recent, carefully-researched work on the subject:\n\nhttp://www.torathmoshe.com/2009/01/tackling-the-tekheleth-teiku/.\n\nWritten with genuine respect to those on all sides of this important issue. "); AddReply(472389,"Runic first appears in Europe century/ies after this vessel inscribed so","roger","ComplexCreation","07/30/09","Runic first appears in Europe a century or several centuries after this vessel inscribed depending how long vessel was used before destruction of Temple II around 70AD (3828) so good chance some of displaced Jews brought and taught till Latin userped under Church influence.\nAll alphabetic languages in particular and all ancient languages in general are based on language of Eden the biblical hebrew being the same. See edenics.com \ngood point above why we did not use most holy script we use in Sefer Torah western scholars mistakenly think is more recent but in reality just restored,\n"); AddReply(472353,"Priestly Inscription","Nita Taefi","Charlotte NC","07/30/09","Anyone with access to history knows this is the land Moses led enslaved Jews to settle. In post WWII, The Jews came back from enslavement to this same home for good. Yet, the ignorance taught from generation to generation is still heard from times as far back as history records to the present day and the same ignorance is still being heard.\n"); AddReply(472346,"Yoni #4:  THIS PROVES NOTHING ABOUT THE TEKHELETH-MUREX EQUATION","Bar-Ron","","07/30/09","This find only further proves what we already know: that there is a connection between the priesthood and the Murex snail. That is because the Murex snail was used to produce the color ARGAMAN, which was used in producing priestly garments. There is ZERO proof that these and other broken shells were harvested to dye tekheleth! To understand why most rabbinical authorities are not convinced by the arguments of the Murex-tekheleth proponents, and do not instruct their followers to place Murex-dyed strings as their tekheleth, please study my treatise on the subject and do your own, careful research:\n\nhttp://www.torathmoshe.com/2009/01/tackling-the-tekheleth-teiku/.\n\nThat is the article \"Tackling the Tekheleth \'Teiku\'\" at the Ohel Moshe Society website, www.torathmoshe.com. "); AddReply(472335,"to #11 of LA ","true yid","","07/30/09","yes, the factory is still in existence.\nI visited with my yeshiva last year.\nThat factory is the \"ptil techelet\" company - the only ones that make the murex snail techelet nowadays. "); AddReply(472323,"Stone Vessel Found","Floyd Helms","USA","07/30/09","This is a bomb shell for the Jewish Nation. For all those who say the Jews have no right to be there in Jerusalem!!!"); AddReply(472299,"Tekhelet","Carole Kracer","Los Angeles","07/30/09","I have been to a small factory near Maale Adumim that has brought back the art of dying the fringes of the tallit - Tekhelet. The Murex snails are brought from an area near Haifa. \n\nI\'d be interested to know if the factory is still in existance - I was there about 10 years ago."); AddReply(472285,"Where?","J","Columbus, OH","07/30/09","Can anyone tell me where to find a photo showing the complete text? If a story mentions a bowl I would expect a photo of a bowl, not a photo of a small portion of a bowl. Is that so hard?"); AddReply(472284,"Writing Looks Runic or Phoecian","Sandy","China","07/30/09","http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_alphabet \n\n \n\nhttp://images.google.com/images?q=ancient scripts&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=u6lxSoKlB4KgMIWOmbEM&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4\n"); AddReply(472276,"Stone Vessel w/Priestly Inscriptions","Nita Taefi","Charlotte NC","07/30/09","Sometimes I wonder if there is more ancient history underground than above it not to mention what\'s in the basements of homes built since the 40\'s"); AddReply(472261,"Stoneware not Earthenware","James Tabor","Charlotte, NC","07/30/09","This is not a ceramic or earthenware vessel, but made entirely of stone--limestone, carved from one piece. Such vessels were common in 2nd Temple times because they did not convey ritual impurities. We have found quite a few at the Mt Zion site, which we think was an area where leading members of the priestly family lived prior to 70 CE."); AddReply(472257,"1:Ritual Purity. 2:Tekhelet Today","Dr. I. Ziderman","Jerusalem","07/30/09","1. RITUAL PURITY\nAs regards the ritually pure stone vessels, let me add that were used in 2nd Temple times not only by priests but also by initiated members (\'haverim\') of the Pharisaic sect (= the Sages of antiquity).\n2.TEKHELET TODAY\nRegarding the shellfish found: yes, they are the tekhelet species \'banded dye-murex\'.\nLet me ask whether the holes were drilled by man or in nature by other snails. If drilled by man, then use as a pendant is indicated. Were the other shells found in Jerusalem also drilled?\nLet me report that tekhelet-coloured cords are now in use again for the \'fringes\', after the the dyeing process has been revived using the banded dye-murex!"); AddReply(472254,"G-d and science","Robert","Indianapolis","07/30/09","One day when scientists get it right they , along with archeologists; I believe will prove what we already know from G-d\'s word. Shalom"); AddReply(472233,"Techelet","Yoni","Maale Adumim","07/30/09","Does this find (as others) not prove that the the original source for techelet is, and has always been the Murex snail? If so, then why don\'t more Jews have a p\'til techelet?"); AddReply(472218,"Tekhelet","David Willner","Efrat","07/30/09","Odd. Your \"tekhelet\" includes a link to Ptil Tekhelet and then says that \"...blue is no longer included.\" Well - then the talit that I wear everyday must be in error. Blue from \"tekhelet\" is being manufactured from murex trunculus and used for tzitzit in growing numbers thanks to the guys at Ptil Tekhelet. Perhaps Shimon Gibson\'s excavation will produce the conclusive evidence that we still lack so that this mitzvah will be restored to its former glory. In the meantime, keep uncovering the deep roots of the Children of Israel in the Land of Israel... it is a privilege to live in such times...\nDavid Willner\nFoundation Stone\nElah Fortress Excavation Project"); AddReply(472213,"\"the precise technology for making the dye ","TWEAKER","","07/30/09","has been lost.\"?\nPERHAPS MANY \"BELIEVE\" SO BUT, THERE IS CERTAINLY NO CONSENSUS ON THE MATER ! The real issue is not the \"technology\", it has been the specific identity of the exact snail\nfrom which tekelet emanated from.\nOne more thing; I hope not to confuse you with the \"FACTS\", thousands of observant Jews wear them today !\nmight I be so \"provocative\" as to cite Yishai Fleisher, Hmmm ? \n "); AddReply(472211,"this is how G-d comforts us","ellen","bklyn","07/30/09","To see this news on Tisha B\'Av is like Hashem reaching out from the Beis Ha Mikdash, across 1940 years of exile. How very moving."); WriteBoxes('Demographic Revolution: Jewish, Arab Growth Equal in JerusalemRetrieving the Jewish Land and Keeping it in Jewish Hands'); WriteReplies(0,132655,iDiv);