","Avraham","Albuquerque, NM","07/31/09","Roger, you gave us the wrong URL. I think you meant www.edenics.ORG\nThat\'s where you\'ll find data that supports the contention that _all_ languages are related to the original language. And that they\'re now coalescing, that all of us will eventually get back to the one, pure language given by G-d to our ancestors way back when, in the Garden!\n\nThe article says they\'re having some difficulty deciphering the informal cursive inscription. I have great difficulty deciphering my own informal cursive writing! (And it doesn\'t date back millenia!)\n\nComputer-related speculation: Why wouldn\'t people \'way back when\' have used a _variety_ of letter-styles when writing...or chiseling? I have dozens of fonts! \n\n.....àáøäí.....\n");
AddReply(472444,"addendum to #17","i","jeusalem","07/30/09","The Rambam decscribes the Hilazon (aquatic source of tehcelet) as a fish with black blood. The current process uses the clear/white bladder fluid of a snail. I vote for the octopus. \n\n* in no way is this to be considered a halachic opinion.");
AddReply(472430,"Yes Nita!","EliMaimon","","07/30/09","Ignorance is a sin! \n\nEspecially for Jews who are commanded to study the Torah they received as an inheritance, together with the land. \n\nAnd of course, no one should get paid for studying!\n \n \n\n \n");
AddReply(472426,"Priestly residential area","EliMaimon","","07/30/09","That the murex shell was found in that area is NOT a proof that it is a priestly residential area.\n\nThe reason being that CONTRARY to the techelet of Tzitzit which must be obtained from the Chilazon, the Techelet of the priestly garment does NOT. \n\nEveryone, including the Temple Institute rabbis, are invited to study the Rambam PROPERLY - that is whoever really wishes to restore our true tradition. \n\n \n");
AddReply(472412,"3,4,6,11,13 -- DON\'T MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ABOUT TEKHELETH before objective study!","Ohel Moshe","","07/30/09","\"Tekheleth\" derived from Murex is patently passul. Have you learned the different sides of the issue? It is passed off as a simple equation -- it is anything but! I wrote an earlier talkback (I don\'t know if it will be selected) recommending the intelligent reader to the following recent, carefully-researched work on the subject:\n\nhttp://www.torathmoshe.com/2009/01/tackling-the-tekheleth-teiku/.\n\nWritten with genuine respect to those on all sides of this important issue. ");
AddReply(472389,"Runic first appears in Europe century/ies after this vessel inscribed so","roger","ComplexCreation","07/30/09","Runic first appears in Europe a century or several centuries after this vessel inscribed depending how long vessel was used before destruction of Temple II around 70AD (3828) so good chance some of displaced Jews brought and taught till Latin userped under Church influence.\nAll alphabetic languages in particular and all ancient languages in general are based on language of Eden the biblical hebrew being the same. See edenics.com \ngood point above why we did not use most holy script we use in Sefer Torah western scholars mistakenly think is more recent but in reality just restored,\n");
AddReply(472353,"Priestly Inscription","Nita Taefi","Charlotte NC","07/30/09","Anyone with access to history knows this is the land Moses led enslaved Jews to settle. In post WWII, The Jews came back from enslavement to this same home for good. Yet, the ignorance taught from generation to generation is still heard from times as far back as history records to the present day and the same ignorance is still being heard.\n");
AddReply(472346,"Yoni #4: THIS PROVES NOTHING ABOUT THE TEKHELETH-MUREX EQUATION","Bar-Ron","","07/30/09","This find only further proves what we already know: that there is a connection between the priesthood and the Murex snail. That is because the Murex snail was used to produce the color ARGAMAN, which was used in producing priestly garments. There is ZERO proof that these and other broken shells were harvested to dye tekheleth! To understand why most rabbinical authorities are not convinced by the arguments of the Murex-tekheleth proponents, and do not instruct their followers to place Murex-dyed strings as their tekheleth, please study my treatise on the subject and do your own, careful research:\n\nhttp://www.torathmoshe.com/2009/01/tackling-the-tekheleth-teiku/.\n\nThat is the article \"Tackling the Tekheleth \'Teiku\'\" at the Ohel Moshe Society website, www.torathmoshe.com. ");
AddReply(472335,"to #11 of LA ","true yid","","07/30/09","yes, the factory is still in existence.\nI visited with my yeshiva last year.\nThat factory is the \"ptil techelet\" company - the only ones that make the murex snail techelet nowadays. ");
AddReply(472323,"Stone Vessel Found","Floyd Helms","USA","07/30/09","This is a bomb shell for the Jewish Nation. For all those who say the Jews have no right to be there in Jerusalem!!!");
AddReply(472299,"Tekhelet","Carole Kracer","Los Angeles","07/30/09","I have been to a small factory near Maale Adumim that has brought back the art of dying the fringes of the tallit - Tekhelet. The Murex snails are brought from an area near Haifa. \n\nI\'d be interested to know if the factory is still in existance - I was there about 10 years ago.");
AddReply(472285,"Where?","J","Columbus, OH","07/30/09","Can anyone tell me where to find a photo showing the complete text? If a story mentions a bowl I would expect a photo of a bowl, not a photo of a small portion of a bowl. Is that so hard?");
AddReply(472284,"Writing Looks Runic or Phoecian","Sandy","China","07/30/09","http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_alphabet \n\n \n\nhttp://images.google.com/images?q=ancient scripts&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=u6lxSoKlB4KgMIWOmbEM&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4\n");
AddReply(472276,"Stone Vessel w/Priestly Inscriptions","Nita Taefi","Charlotte NC","07/30/09","Sometimes I wonder if there is more ancient history underground than above it not to mention what\'s in the basements of homes built since the 40\'s");
AddReply(472261,"Stoneware not Earthenware","James Tabor","Charlotte, NC","07/30/09","This is not a ceramic or earthenware vessel, but made entirely of stone--limestone, carved from one piece. Such vessels were common in 2nd Temple times because they did not convey ritual impurities. We have found quite a few at the Mt Zion site, which we think was an area where leading members of the priestly family lived prior to 70 CE.");
AddReply(472257,"1:Ritual Purity. 2:Tekhelet Today","Dr. I. Ziderman","Jerusalem","07/30/09","1. RITUAL PURITY\nAs regards the ritually pure stone vessels, let me add that were used in 2nd Temple times not only by priests but also by initiated members (\'haverim\') of the Pharisaic sect (= the Sages of antiquity).\n2.TEKHELET TODAY\nRegarding the shellfish found: yes, they are the tekhelet species \'banded dye-murex\'.\nLet me ask whether the holes were drilled by man or in nature by other snails. If drilled by man, then use as a pendant is indicated. Were the other shells found in Jerusalem also drilled?\nLet me report that tekhelet-coloured cords are now in use again for the \'fringes\', after the the dyeing process has been revived using the banded dye-murex!");
AddReply(472254,"G-d and science","Robert","Indianapolis","07/30/09","One day when scientists get it right they , along with archeologists; I believe will prove what we already know from G-d\'s word. Shalom");
AddReply(472233,"Techelet","Yoni","Maale Adumim","07/30/09","Does this find (as others) not prove that the the original source for techelet is, and has always been the Murex snail? If so, then why don\'t more Jews have a p\'til techelet?");
AddReply(472218,"Tekhelet","David Willner","Efrat","07/30/09","Odd. Your \"tekhelet\" includes a link to Ptil Tekhelet and then says that \"...blue is no longer included.\" Well - then the talit that I wear everyday must be in error. Blue from \"tekhelet\" is being manufactured from murex trunculus and used for tzitzit in growing numbers thanks to the guys at Ptil Tekhelet. Perhaps Shimon Gibson\'s excavation will produce the conclusive evidence that we still lack so that this mitzvah will be restored to its former glory. In the meantime, keep uncovering the deep roots of the Children of Israel in the Land of Israel... it is a privilege to live in such times...\nDavid Willner\nFoundation Stone\nElah Fortress Excavation Project");
AddReply(472213,"\"the precise technology for making the dye ","TWEAKER","","07/30/09","has been lost.\"?\nPERHAPS MANY \"BELIEVE\" SO BUT, THERE IS CERTAINLY NO CONSENSUS ON THE MATER ! The real issue is not the \"technology\", it has been the specific identity of the exact snail\nfrom which tekelet emanated from.\nOne more thing; I hope not to confuse you with the \"FACTS\", thousands of observant Jews wear them today !\nmight I be so \"provocative\" as to cite Yishai Fleisher, Hmmm ? \n ");
AddReply(472211,"this is how G-d comforts us","ellen","bklyn","07/30/09","To see this news on Tisha B\'Av is like Hashem reaching out from the Beis Ha Mikdash, across 1940 years of exile. How very moving.");
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